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there is a thread here
http://www.bellett.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2021

A LONG SHOT Many pumps shown in pictures here...... one would imagine if all is lost, there just might be something that can be adapted. Maybe not.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CBwQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.atap.com.au%2Fdocuments%2FWater%2520Pump%2520Catalogue%25202010.pdf&ei=mhYQVJrGFcqfugTbyoLYBQ&usg=AFQjCNGstc0wR7tiNmeuyQIx_9A39weEdw&sig2=z6-ooCdNsZGX6yE2uRlw5Q&bvm=bv.74649129,d.dGc

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Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:07 am
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Car(s): PR91 1967 GT, PR20 1966 1/2 with GT Goodies, Bellett PR20 1968 Orange with Turbo G161 OHV
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Well it depends if you are a purist or not.
With my Asroc I am using a Davies Craig electric pump EWP80 $220, custom aluminium inlet fitting for lower hose $70 and taped 6AN fitting for auxiliary port to front of block $35
Flow rate constant 80L / minute idle to WOT
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 am
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Davo.
The first model KB20 that was released was called a Chevrolet LUV. This had a g161 OHV engine similar to the GT in cc.
Later they fitted the G161Z. SOHC as per Gemini. The waterpump from the OHV will fit. If you look at the listing that Glenn
has put up and go to page 19 you will see that it is the 1. Part ref. PWP1001. The other pump listed is the G161Z. (PWP827). The listing dates are incorrect as well as the engine type.

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:52 pm
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Soooo...I can buy a PWP1001 Chevy Luv pump, gut it, install the impeller into the Bellett housing and...success? Seems like a long shot.

I'm starting to see why there was a bidding war on the last few repair kits that hit Yahoo Japan!


Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:31 pm
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Clarification to what I have advised on my last post.
The chev luv pump will only fit 5 bearing G150/161 engines. Part numbers GWIS-13A GMB. CPO 319 in SILVERLINE.
The wp1001 will only fit the G161s engine that is in my GT convertible. Strangely enough. The gasket is identicle but the
Chev pump has a relief hole in the outlet where the GT has a mounting bolt. Outlet to the right on the sedan where the GT
is to the left and goes down under the timing cover and then to the right. Uses a steel elbow joined with 2 hoses.
This subject is 1 of many that I think about and check when possible. I will not advise anybody that something will
fit or adapt until I have thoroughy checked and tested myself.

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Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:02 pm
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Thanks Dave...just to clarify your clarification...

...a WP1001 will fit my GT, but outlet will be on the wrong side?

I've found this pump online for purchase, I may give it a crack and see if I can make it work.

Now the engine is out of the car, I really would like to service or replace as much as possible. Given the nature of my work, gawd knows when I'll have the readies to do it again any time soon.


Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:44 pm
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As far as I'm aware the wp1001 will only fit the G161s. i.e. SOHC engine with 2 drive chains.
I've taken photos of the pumps that I have and in the process of checking any fouling of the main body of the pump and height. My scanner isn't working. So I took everything to work and we got busy. And I couldn't do anything. Might have
the oportunity in the next few days when all staff are there.
I'll keep you all posted.

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Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:49 am
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Anyone keen on ordering a lazy 100pcs? I wonder if they can send me a sample? :lol:

http://opautoparts.en.alibaba.com/produ ... _13A_.html


Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:31 am
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degruch wrote:
Anyone keen on ordering a lazy 100pcs? I wonder if they can send me a sample? :lol:

http://opautoparts.en.alibaba.com/produ ... _13A_.html

you could probably offload them all, depending on price and shipping, customs etc

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hi guys asked dave in qld hes making inquiries ..does anyone know what pump fits the 3 bearing 1600 pr90 motor seems theres a few different sorts ,,just id rather replace than cook later on ....id appreciate any imfo cheers davo


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Davo,its the same water pump for G150, G160 and Florian and early Chev Luv.

only difference is the backing plate for 3 bearing main is different, but the main pump assy is the same.

OZ

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I will want a water pump if there are orders going to happen please.

I have a G150.

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Glenn wrote:
degruch wrote:
Anyone keen on ordering a lazy 100pcs? I wonder if they can send me a sample? :lol:

http://opautoparts.en.alibaba.com/produ ... _13A_.html

you could probably offload them all, depending on price and shipping, customs etc


A 'good price' would probably be $100ea, so I'd only need to outlay a lousy $10k...i'll check down the back of the couch. :lol:


Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:37 am
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degruch wrote:
Glenn wrote:
degruch wrote:
Anyone keen on ordering a lazy 100pcs? I wonder if they can send me a sample? :lol:

http://opautoparts.en.alibaba.com/produ ... _13A_.html

you could probably offload them all, depending on price and shipping, customs etc


A 'good price' would probably be $100ea, so I'd only need to outlay a lousy $10k...i'll check down the back of the couch. :lol:


found that lazy 10k yet ??

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i have been trying for the last 6 months to get a Chinese Manufacturer to do a run of pumps and i dont want to order 500!
hope to get a minimum order quantity of 200 but as they have to setup the line for the run and not too many enquiries come in for that
specific pump, its hard to get them done...
or they want 100US for each item??

get real fellows.

i will keep trying to get it done.

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Thanks for all the effort
If it gets of the ground I'm happy to buy up to 3
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US$100 is a good price...will they really sell a sample? If so, put me down for a couple!


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Greetings everyone

I picked up this kit a few months back, the seller said it was for a Luv, the body to cyl and pump to body packing or gaskets are exactly the same form and fit as the ones from the G130 and I assume this is the same for both the G130 & G150 3 bearing engine. I haven't verified the bearing or seal but they look the same ..

Later
Mark


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Thanks Mark...I keep trying to buy repair kits off Yahoo Japan, but it erupts into a bidding war each time. However, Dick tells me he has them, so that's where I'm going for the time being.


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Hi guys,

Confirmation today, sadly, OHC water pumps do not share any components with, nor can they be modified to suit the OHV pump. The bearing and shaft is larger than the OHV, so no chance of interchanging either, as with the seal. The bearing and shaft are too large in diameter to machine the OHV housing to fit.

Thanks to Oz for donating an OHC pump to the cause, but sadly, if we want a ready supply of OHV pumps we'll need to source them specifically. I can produce CAD to suit, of course, maybe we can modify to fit a readily available bearing and seal?


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