Gt Disc brake upgrade

Technical questions relating to your wheels, brakes, suspension and steering
Post Reply
User avatar
yellowperil
Posts: 279
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
Location: Hobart

Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by yellowperil »

Hi all

a few photos for you. Bellett GT hubs, GE Sigma discs (13mm solid) early GE Sigma calipers (Girlock not PBR).

YP
039.JPG
039.JPG (269.01 KiB) Viewed 20884 times
038.JPG
038.JPG (348.73 KiB) Viewed 20884 times
040.JPG
040.JPG (291.07 KiB) Viewed 20884 times
Bellett SEDANS are proof that the gods love us and want us to be happy.
User avatar
Glenn
Posts: 2826
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
Location: Melb.
Contact:

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by Glenn »

yellowperil wrote:Hi all

a few photos for you. Bellett GT hubs, GE Sigma discs (13mm solid) early GE Sigma calipers (Girlock not PBR).

YP
any more details ? any machining for example? It looks like a lot of meat has been taken from the caliper?
It appears that rotor bolts direct to the hub ?

The other disk 'conversion' mentioned in these pages recently uses a vented rotor and will fit 13" wheels. It also uses relatively late model parts from a donor car which are fairly common in wrecking yards.
http://www.bellett.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3038
Last edited by Glenn on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
'72 PR60 Sport
User avatar
yellowperil
Posts: 279
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
Location: Hobart

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by yellowperil »

You're getting very close Glenn,

No machining of caliper but the large "spacer" in the bellett hub has had about 4-5mm machined off it so that the rotor runs in the centre of the calipers. The original caliper mount has to be re-tapped to take the Sigma caliper bolts which are just a few thou larger.

I took all the bits to a local auto engineering shop. He did it for mates rates including pads...but I know him fairly well.

His only lament was that I we couldn't fit ventilated rotors!!!
Bellett SEDANS are proof that the gods love us and want us to be happy.
User avatar
Glenn
Posts: 2826
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
Location: Melb.
Contact:

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by Glenn »

yellowperil wrote:You're getting very close Glenn,

No machining of caliper but the large "spacer" in the bellett hub has had about 4-5mm machined off it so that the rotor runs in the centre of the calipers. The original caliper mount has to be re-tapped to take the Sigma caliper bolts which are just a few thou larger.

I took all the bits to a local auto engineering shop. He did it for mates rates including pads...but I know him fairly well.

His only lament was that I we couldn't fit ventilated rotors!!!
solids are fine in most cases. The disk conversion using the vented rotor ends up with 231mm diameter rotors. There is another model in same range as the specified donor car with a 250mm rotor which would probably work although 13" wheels then maybe an issue. I have a set of the 231mm ones per the conversion. I think the original takes a little off the outside dimension (largest) hub but i elected to take it out of the centre of the rotor. Its not much. http://www.bellett.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3038
Its a backup in case i ever need to do the Sports brakes.

Another rotor that looks interesting is N16 Pulsar. Plenty of them about. (pictured) But wouldn't work with 13" rims. They are 257mm Diameter from what i see in DBA Cat. But this conversion is not Engineered as is the one that PR91 gave us some info on.
Attachments
Copy of N16_PUlsar_disks_5.jpg
Copy of N16_PUlsar_disks_5.jpg (22.93 KiB) Viewed 20847 times
N16 dimensions.jpg
N16 dimensions.jpg (72.29 KiB) Viewed 20847 times
Last edited by Glenn on Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:02 am, edited 3 times in total.
'72 PR60 Sport
CQGT
Posts: 386
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by CQGT »

Hi YP.

When you bolted the disc to the hub. Did you use a bolt and nut or did you tap a thread into the disc. :?:
Most of the discs that I was able to get and try were not threaded and there wasn't much room behind to
clear the the head of the bolts on the stearing arm. My concern is that the nut,if it worked loose, would foul
those bolts.

Dave.
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.
User avatar
yellowperil
Posts: 279
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
Location: Hobart

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by yellowperil »

Hi Dave
Good to hear from you. Hope you're well.
It was a bolt and nut to fix the rotor as used in the original Gt set up.
YP
Bellett SEDANS are proof that the gods love us and want us to be happy.
PR91
Posts: 2521
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by PR91 »

Or just put sedan drum brake hubs on it with the conversion I've already mentioned.....
Vented rotors, common, and fits inside 13" wheels.
User avatar
Glenn
Posts: 2826
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
Location: Melb.
Contact:

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by Glenn »

PR91 wrote:Or just put sedan drum brake hubs on it with the conversion I've already mentioned.....
Vented rotors, common, and fits inside 13" wheels.
see my link above.........
'72 PR60 Sport
PR91
Posts: 2521
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am

Re: Gt Disc brake upgrade

Post by PR91 »

Glenn wrote:
PR91 wrote:Or just put sedan drum brake hubs on it with the conversion I've already mentioned.....
Vented rotors, common, and fits inside 13" wheels.
see my link above.........
Exactly
Post Reply